I had admired Gary’s drumming for a while having seen him playing live with Steve Hackett on many occasions. I had recorded programmed drums for the song No Man’s Land, they sounded ok but I knew it needed some real finesse, especially on the hi-hats during the verses. I contacted Gary and he agreed to do the session and kindly added some backing vocals. This was also the first time I had worked with a drummer via the internet, so of course when Gary sent me his finished tracks, I realised the next task for me was learn to mix drums! An excellent drummer and top chap!