I had admired Gary’s drumming for a while having seen him playing live with Steve Hackett on many occasions. I had recorded programmed drums for the song ‘No Man’s Land’, they sounded ok, but I knew it needed some real finesse especially on the hi-hats during the verses. I contacted Gary and he agreed to do the session and kindly added some backing vocals. This was also the first time I had worked with a drummer via the internet, so of course, when Gary sent me his finished tracks I got about fifteen individual stems! Different drums, mic positions etc. Next task for me – learn to mix drums! Excellent drumming and top chap!